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  1303rd general services engineering battalion
Posted by: terivee - 11-27-2006, 05:01 AM - Forum: WWII ENGINEERS - Replies (4)


i am seeking any info on the 1303rd engineering regiment, all the info i can come up with , i am having vvery little luck, especially to find where they went to in the s.

pacific,, any info contact me,, my grandfathers unit,

scottschroedl@yahoo.com

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  Bodies in River
Posted by: jim armstroong - 11-26-2006, 11:32 PM - Forum: OTHER WWII UNIT STORIES AND INFO - Replies (3)


Don't remember posting this before but if I did chalk it up to an old man's memory

lapse due to the number of years.

 

I was acting as an MP guarding a cross road outside Chartres,France at the time the 26th (ID) was in the area and Kraut POWS were coming back through. I noticed locals staring down into river so I decided to take a look-see and walked up to the bridge(I was doing interpreting off and on for an Intel Unit) and I heard enough to know that they weren't going to give me help or info.

 

A Canadian "Bike" rider was passing so I asked him to secure my weapon(sure didn't trust locals) while I climbed down the river bank-swam out to an overturned 2-1/2 six-by and proceeded to dive. After a few dives,I located both GIs. Swam ashore to get help. Ordnance sent 2 huge wreckers to recover bodies/trucks.

 

I was taken to an Aid Station for hypothermia treatment(got dry uniform)and went back to my unit as we were loading POWs for shipment to rear.Got served some semi-hot powdered eggs out of a can with ketchup-what a choice!! I had just stuck a hand inside a GIs head a while ago!!

 

Never heard any more-not even the GIs names-but some time later I was told by a Lt. they were from the 26th ID! Have always wondered who they were when I recall this incident since I lived in Boston and the 26th ID had a lot of men from that area in it. The 26th ID was nicknamed "Yankee Div." and shoulder patch was "YD".

 

 

Questions I have/had follow:-

 

Could GIs have been saved if locals spoke up before I got inquisitive?

 

Could we have helped save those GIs if the Locals spoke up??

 

Why stand and stare and not report GIs were in the river?

 

Did they dislike us that much?

 

Would love to have an answer to a lot of questions I have never been able to answer!!

 

I know it's a lot of years since '44 but I'm still curious about those 2 GIs.

 

Maybe ! I'll never know but curiosity came back when I saw YD's Web Page some time back.

 

I have posted this story other places but still nothing for my efforts.

 

Sgtleo :banghead::banghead:

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  Bonhoeffer
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 11-26-2006, 10:39 PM - Forum: TV Shows, Film, Videos - Replies (9)


I myself have not seen this yet, but have read the posts of others who have.

 

http://www.bonhoeffer.com/

 

BONHOEFFER is a 93-minute documentary film that tells the dramatic story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the young German theologian who offered one of the first clear voices of resistance to Adolf Hitler. Bonhoeffer openly challenged his church to stand with the Jews in their time of need, and eventually joined his family in the plots to kill Hitler. His books, Cost of Discipleship, Letters and Papers from Prison, and Ethics, were written during the struggle and are considered classics in the world of religion and ethics.

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  the German Protestant Church
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 11-26-2006, 10:37 PM - Forum: ANYTHING WWII - No Replies


THE NAZI CHALLENGE TO

THE GERMAN PROTESTANT CHURCH

 

by Victoria J. Barnett

General Editor, Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works, English Edition

Director for Church Relations, US Holocaust Museum

 

At the beginning of the twentieth century the German Evangelical (Protestant) Church was a loose confederation of regional Lutheran, Reformed and United churches. It had a long tradition of nationalism and loyalty to state authority. Like most of the German population, Protestants were tired of the political turbulence of the Weimar years. They feared the threat of Communism, and, in light of their defeat during World War I, they resented other European countries. By 1933, with the installation of Adolf Hitler as Chancellor, many German Protestant leaders were ready to welcome the new Nazi government. They believed that Adolf Hitler would be a strong leader who could revive Germany's economic stability and national pride. Many aspects of Nazi ideology, including its nationalism, anti-Semitism and emphasis on traditional values appealed to German Protestants.

 

But the Protestant Church would soon prove to be a stumbling block to Hitler's plans to "nazify" German society, including its churches. The reason was a reaction to the emergence of the Deutsche Christen (German Christian) church, a nationalistic Protestant group that identified with Nazi ideology and hoped to create a national Reich Church that would embody Nazi ideals. The German Christians won the national church elections in July 1933 and quickly tried to enforce their agenda, which included the adoption of "Aryan laws" within the church (permitting only racially pure Germans to hold church positions) and the eradication of all Jewish influences from Christian scriptures, liturgies and hymns.

 

If they agreed with many of the political aims of the Nazi regime, many Protestant clergy and leaders nevertheless found the German Christian agenda to be ideologically tainted and anti-Christian. A new movement emerged, led by prominent preachers and theologians like Martin Niemoeller and Karl Barth, that opposed the German Christians: the Confessing Church. Founded on the principle that a truly Christian church would not succumb to the demands of political ideology, the Confessing Church argued that the principles of belief were to be found in the scriptures, not in Nazi laws, and that the head of the Church was Christ, not a political Fuhrer. These convictions placed the Confessing Church on a collision course not only with the German Christians, but with the Nazi dictatorship itself.

 

Nazi authorities responded by harassing local Confessing congregations and arresting their more outspoken pastors. Karl Barth, the Swiss theologian who wrote the Confessing Church's founding faith statement, the Barmen Declaration of Faith, lost his professorship in Bonn and returned to Switzerland in 1935 after refusing to take a loyalty oath. Martin Niemoeller, the most prominent Confessing pastor in Germany, would ultimately spend seven years in Nazi prisons and concentration camps.

 

Under such pressures, many argued that the Protestant Church in general should confine its witness purely to church affairs and refrain from political criticism of the Nazi regime. Even the Confessing Church, despite its courageous beginnings, became more intimidated by Nazi authorities with each passing year. It was divided between moderates who sought compromise with the Nazi regime and radicals who felt called to political opposition. While some Confessing Christians offered resistance against the regime and attempted to rescue its victims, most Protestants sought only to maintain an "apolitical" church, free of Nazi influences – not acknowledging that, in Nazi Germany, such neutrality inevitably meant silence about Nazi injustice and terror.

 

Although he was only 27 years of age in when Hitler became Chancellor, Dietrich Bonhoeffer gained early prominence as one of the most radical voices in the Confessing Church. Even before the Confessing Church was founded Bonhoeffer raised the question of church resistance against what he described as the illegitimate use of state authority. Throughout the Third Reich, Bonhoeffer retained an uncanny ability to pinpoint and critique those aspects of Protestant tradition, such as subservience to state authority, that paralyzed his church and ultimately prevented it from offering greater resistance to Nazism. And in his writings he raised more universal questions, based on his experience in the Confessing Church and then in the resistance, about the viability of religious faith in an ideological age and the ethical demands of fighting against evil.

 

Tragically, Bonhoeffer's prophetic voice was silenced only weeks before the Allied victory. Yet the German Protestant church that emerged from the ashes in 1945 was a very different one from the predominantly nationalistic church that had greeted Hitler in 1933. In the October 1945 Stuttgart Declaration of Guilt its leaders acknowledged their guilt and complicity in the Nazi reign of terror. In the decades since, Bonhoeffer's writings and witness have continued to inspire and influence German Protestants as well as Christians throughout the world.

 

I am going to place another post regarding this in the film section, since it deals with the movie about Dietrich.

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  poem of Jean
Posted by: sixgun - 11-26-2006, 09:06 AM - Forum: ANYTHING WWII - Replies (3)


It is marvelous Norman poet . I like very much his poems :heartpump:

veronique

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