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  WWII Australian Pioneer Battalions
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 02-24-2007, 06:16 PM - Forum: WWII ENGINEERS - No Replies


Papa Art sent this...

 

 

Subject: Re: [WWII] Australian Pioneer Battalions

 

I understand that these WWII units were considered infantry units and not engineer units as the term "pioneer" usually indicates. However, they did do light engineer tasks, but could perform as infantry.

 

Is this correct?

 

What was their mission/role and internal organization?

 

How did their organization and equipment differ from infantry battalions?

 

Gordo

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WWII mailing list WWII@lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/wwii

 

 

 

Pioneer Battalions were organised, trained and equipped to a similar scale as an equivalent Infantry Battalion though may have lacked some of the heavier weapons particularly early in the conflict.

 

They could and were used on occasion to replace or supplement infantry battalions that had been hard pushed in an action. The Official Histories are replete with instances of the Pioneer Battalions fighting - see http://www.awm.gov.au/histories/volume.asp?conflict=2.

 

They were tasked with providing the labour force required by a division for minor engineering tasks that would generally be designed and supervised by the Engineer squadrons. Initially they were recruited from those with experience in carpentry, road making, mining etc.....

 

They were raised by the British Army (and followed by the Commonwealth and Empire) in the First World War to "soak up" surplus manpower in the lower health grades but were suitable for combat. Eventually one battalion was allocated per division - as partial replacements for the three battalions removed from the divisions when they reduced from 4 to

3 battalions per brigade (and to relieve to a certain extent the fatigues that the "resting" battalions would have otherwise done - but "rest" was figurative rather than real). The organisation of 9 Infantry Battalions, one MG Battalion and one Pioneer Battalion (plus supporting troops) was continued into the second world war. By the time the Pacific opened up divisions (particularly from the 1943 campaigns) were no longer fixed organisations but rather higher HQ for the control of operations in an area with units (usually as Brigade Groups) attached as needed.

 

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Cheers

 

Daniel Ross

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  Interview Questions for VI Corps Engineers
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 02-24-2007, 12:26 PM - Forum: WWII ENGINEERS - Replies (1)


Questions for all the VI Corps Engineers

 

 

Note: Feb 2014 - Looks like yet another of our file attachments on the forum have disappeared (see post below mine), but I found a copy on my own hard drive and have re-uploaded it.

 

:pdt12:

VI Corps Questions for my Book.pdf



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  Normandy Engineer
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 02-24-2007, 10:11 AM - Forum: WWII ENGINEERS - Replies (5)


your_name: Steve Blakney

 

address: 5018 N33 rd st

 

cityst: Tacoma WA

 

zipcode: 98407

 

phone: left off for privacy

 

email_confirm: left off for privacy

 

through: other

 

comments: I am trying to get information of my father. Like a lot of men he came home and did not talk a lot about what he did. He was in the combat engineers but I do not know the unit.

Places he talked about being

 

-Utah beach landing - first wave

-Saint Lo

-Malmady

-St Vith

and the Nordhousen liberation

 

My father was in the convoy that was stopped and latter executed at Malmady. He and, a few men he could talk into it, made a break for it near the back of the column. He hid out and latter was in the fighting around the St Vith area. For most of the war he was out in front of the infantry units blowing up things or keeping things from being blown up. They had sent him back to Belgium for a rest.

 

Are there any combat engineer units that would have been in all of these actions. I know they got switched around a lot and at one time were even fronting for a British unit.

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  1884th and 1885th Aviation Engineers
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 02-24-2007, 09:45 AM - Forum: WWII ENGINEERS - Replies (4)


your_name: chris timm

 

address: 4370 eagle crest dr

 

cityst: williamsburg, mi

 

zipcode: 49690

 

phone: left off for privacy

 

email_confirm: left off for privacy

 

through: Search Engine

 

comments: I am looking to track down as much information, photos, etc on the 1884th and 1885th engineer aviation battalions. Do you have much information on them?

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  REVEILLE
Posted by: Walt's Daughter - 02-24-2007, 09:26 AM - Forum: ALL Vets News - Replies (5)


I know we posted this on the forum last year, but Rocky just resent this to me and I thought it fitting that it should have a permanent home in the All Vets News section.

 

This is LONG, around 11 minutes, but please take the time some day to view it. It is worth the watch. And you know I don't post things lightly.

 

This is a video called Reveille.

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...7293&q=Veterans

 

:usa:

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