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292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - shurlox - 09-30-2016
Gary;
I downloaded the image and believe my grandfather is the guy on the top row 15th from the right, however I also see things in the guy on the bottom 7th from the left. I just never seen my grandfather any way but smiling...he was quite a prankster actually. Here are the photo's as well as the military photo I have of him..(not great) with another photo after the war, I have been told it was not too long after. Any one have an opinion?
Regards, Martha DalSanto Granddaughter of Edwin J Grosskurth 292nd Eng Combat Bn Co A 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - shurlox - 09-30-2016
Hello Randy;
My grandfather was in the 292nd Company A. I am having a hard time finding much about CO A. I am seeing some things on the 292nd but most reference Co B or C. If you have more information on CO A as far as photos of this group and their campaign etc. I would be appreciative if you could post.
Regards,
Martha DalSanto Grandaughter of: Edwin J Grosskurth 292nd Engr Combat Bn Co A 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - Sir Gator - 09-30-2016
Martha,
Wow, thanks so much for sharing! I can 100% put one thing to bed... the guy in the first row is definitely not your grandfather. I know this because coincidentally he happens to be my grandfather. By comparing the photos you posted it sure does look like your father is the soldier 15th from the right in the top row. Do others here have an opinion? How about your mother? What does she think? I believe I found an obituary for your great grandfather that mentions your grandfather and also a birth notice for you from 1963. Not info directly on your grandfather, but info related to him. I attached them to see if they are indeed related to you and your family.
Until next time,
Gary 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - shurlox - 10-02-2016
Gary;
Yes that is my birth announcement. That I did have; the obituary of my great grandfather I did not. Thank you for that.
My mother believes that the man in the top row is her father...this has caused some confusion for her though.
When I started to research my grandfather my mother kept saying that something was not right about his service record as she remembered him in the service longer than it indicated; well she found this letter that was sent by him to her Aunt ( my grandmother's sister) who's husband was oversees as well at that time. It was written by my grandfather to encourage her Aunt on her wedding anniversary. He was that kind of guy, always concerned for others despite what he might have been going through. Ok I am getting off the point here.
The letter is dated JUNE OF 1942 and he addresses himself as a SGT at this time in the 292nd.....????? Any thoughts on how this can be???
Regards, Martha DalSanto Granddaughter of Edwin J Grosskurth 292nd Eng Combat Bn Co A 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - Sir Gator - 10-02-2016
Martha,
Glad I could provide you with something you didn't have. A little off topic perhaps, but still related to you and your family. I will add your grandfather identification to the 292nd Company photo.
As for the confusion... it is curious. The 292nd wasn't even formed until November of 1943 with the bulk of the troops not actually assigned until about February of 1944 so he could not have been part of the unit in 1942. According to the "Numerical Listings of APO's 1942-1947" put out by the Army Postal Service the APO 339 used on the letter wasn't even created until September 4th, 1944 starting in Rennes, France (see page 90 in the following pdf link).
http://www.7tharmddiv.org/docrep/Location%20of%20APOs%201942-1947.pdf
So, I believe there must be a mistake on the letter concerning the date. Collaborations is the name of the game here so I welcome other opinions and explanations that others may have. It definitely sounds like your grandfather was a very considerate sort thinking of others which more than likely also helped him during the tough times away from his family.
I'll post the updated 292nd photo with your grandfather added shortly.
Gary
addendum: We have almost 200 letters that my grandfather sent home to my grandmother and the ones after deployment to the continent (aka Europe) were also APO 339. 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - Sir Gator - 10-02-2016 Folks,
Here's the updated Company A photo with the addition of Edwin Grosskurth.
Gary 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - buk2112 - 10-03-2016
Hi Martha,
What a great letter, thanks so much for sharing this family treasure with us. Your grandfather's discharge paper shows he was inducted on 17 JAN 1944 and as Gary has said the 292nd wasn't formed until 5 NOV 1943. Someone just made a mistake when they wrote the date, it happens. Considering the timeline on your grandfather's service and the APO from where it was sent, the date of the letter was probably June 1945 instead of 1942. Hope this may have clarified your mother's confusion. Have a good day!
Randy 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - buk2112 - 10-03-2016
Hello Martha,
Here is a little information about the 292nd. The 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion was established on 5 November 1943 at Camp Butner, North Carolina. The battalion consisted of four companies designated H&S(Headquarters and Supply), A, B, and C. The battalion trained at Camp Butner until departing in October 1944 heading for the European Theater of Operations. The following two images are a timeline for the battalion after leaving Camp Butner.
The headcount for the battalion changed over time with men being transferred in and out for various reasons. When they arrived in the war zone at Merkstein Germany on 23 December 1944 the battalion consisted of 632 men, 599 enlisted and 33 officers. Of this number there were 159 making up Company A. Hope this has helped some Martha, have a good one!
Randy 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - buk2112 - 10-03-2016 Hello Martha,
Here is a link to another thread on this forum discussing the 292nd Campaign Map.
http://www.6thcorpscombatengineers.com/engforum/index.php?showtopic=7813&hl=
If your family does not have one of these maps I would be glad to send you one.
Randy 292nd Engineer Combat Battalion (New Member) - Sir Gator - 10-03-2016
Take him up on it, Martha!
He sent me a copy when I first found him trolling around the internet and it is great! Just another step in your quest for information pertaining to your grandfather's service. Thanks, Randy!
Until next time,
Gary |